Visual Dyslexia Forum for visual dyslexics

vitaman104@yahoo.com Guest Feb 14, 2008 5:58 PM	I discovered at age 56 that I, as a pharmacist, have Irlen Syndrome. I was diagnosed and then received my correct tint to resolve this issue. The results were amazing. I could read four words at a glance instead of one word at a time, and I could see all of my wife's face as one image instead of trying to put together several smaller images to see the whole picture. I really cannot imagine what your glasses propose to do in comparison. What correction is available for a prescription correction that is needed, or are your lenses only for those who need no prescription correction? Sincerely, Roger Wheaton, Ann Arbor, Michigan
hayesatlbch 2 posts Nov 05, 2008 10:42 PM	See Right Dyslexia Glasses can be ordered as prescription glasses for an additional fee. If Irlen lenses do indeed remove all your visual problems then the See Right Dyslexia glasses can't offer a better visual experience. Many Irlen customers aren't as happy with the Irlen lenses as you are because of the limits imposed by the single color basis of her method. Many visual dyslexia symptoms are the result of there being multiple wavelengths causing the problems which is not a problem for See Right Dyslexia Glasses as they filter out all the specific problem wavelengths. See Right Dyslexia Glasses are very successful for those that are not helped by Irlen Lenses and still seek help for their visual dyslexia. I think it is scandalous that Irlen testers have reported that they have a 50% quota to meet in referring clients for the more costly evaluation when there is no financial guarantee if the client receives no benefit from the lenses selected. The major advantages of the See Right Dyslexia Glasses are the higher standard of success, a higher success rate, the elimination of the need for a personal evaluation and come with a money back guarantee.
mminok Guest Oct 09, 2009 7:39 AM	Your site is interesting. Some points are valid, and some are quite misleading about the Irlen lenses. Their cost is relatively high. It can take a terribly long time to receive them. On the other hand, we have not found anything else that has had such a dramatic and positive impact on our son and our family's daily lives. I have never met an Irlen screener that cared more about a quota than a child's actual needs. I am not sure about that statement, and have reason to suspect its accuracy as well. It could be an isolated case. I haven't seen ANY accurate or complete quotes on the Irlen success rates. On the other hand, I don't know of any vision therapist or anyone else serving the learning disability community that can guarantee a "one size fits all" solution for a child. That would assume that our brains were all made in the same manner. I do applaud you for the money back guarantee. I would be interested in your rate of return. Since it it is not customized, and a specialist is not used to evaluate a person's needs, it can allow a return policy like yours. Eliminating any evaluation time will definitely reduce costs. On the other hand, does it also reduce success rates? CORRECTION - I have NEVER heard of one single tint helping anyone. Our son has a huge mix of colors that are combined for his lenses. While the medical community (pediatric ophthamologist, allergist, pediatrician with tests including an MRI) couldn't get rid of his daily migraines, the Irlen lenses removed them over 95% of the time, from the first day. Math worksheets were reduced from an average of 60 minutes of almost tearful frustration, to 5-10 minutes of ease. He could read music and the notes stopped sliding up and down the staff, and maps were understandable for the first time. While your technology, and your business model sounds great, it is diminished by a simplified and possibly misleading representation of the Irlen solution.
Hayesatlbch Guest Oct 09, 2009 11:51 AM	Before I respond ,here is a description of what is claimed by Irlen. Am I the one who misrepresents her product or is Irlen?She has since added ADHD and autism to groups that her lenses help. ------------------------------------------------------------ According to Irlen, the lenses can be used to treat a wide variety of problems that are associated with light sensitivity, discomfort and distortions. According to proponents, tinted lenses have helped people with a head injury, concussion, whiplash, perceptual problems, neurologic impairment, memory loss, language deficits, headaches and migraine, autoimmune disease, fibromyalgia, macular degeneration, cataracts, retinitis pigmentosa, complications from an eye operation, depression, chronic anxiety and others. It has also been claimed that a treatment for scotopic sensitivity syndrome could help a number of incarcerated individuals and delinquent children.[6] ----------------------------------------------------------- I don't have several sources for the Irlen quota but it has been reported in the newspaper an Irlen screener said that her job was dependent upon recommending the full Irlen method to 50% of the people that came in for screening. I've always said that some people receive benefits from Irlen lenses. I am more interested in Irlen failures as they often become customers of my See Right Dyslexia Glasses. I haven't had any returns from any Irlen customers that have continued their search for help with their visual problems after receiving no help from Irlen lenses. As to the return rate on my glasses, it is been a fairly steady 10% for adult dyslexic glasses and about 15% for children's glasses. The higher return for children's glasses I attribute to the difficulty of parents understanding their children's specific difficulties with reading. As to any misunderstanding or misinformation I present for Irlen lenses I would suggest that it is at least as accurate as anything presented by Irlen. Her expansion of her lenses as being helpful to people with autism, ADHD and even good readers can only be considered overselling. To be clear about my thoughts of her overselling to people with autismADHD and even good readers, I am not saying that some people in those groups are not visual dyslexics or that they would not be helped by visual interventions such as Irlen lenses or my See Right Dyslexia Glasses. The important point in my opinion is that there is not a general need for visual correction of everyone in those groups. I believe it is a reasonable idea when there are two products that claim to have the same result where one has a money back guarantee and the other does not, that there will be more general satisfaction trying the product with a money back guarantee first. As to your comment about there being a one-size-fits-all solution with my glasses, it is not as you suggest that everyone is the same. What I have done is identify all the problem wavelengths of light that adversely affect all the visual dyslexics and filter them out all at once. I will even agree that it is not as elegant a solution as Irlen has which is to only filter out wavelengths that she can determine are harmful to the individual. On the other hand, Irlen's method makes it very difficult to identify any minor wavelengths that give difficulty. It is also hard to determine what Irlen's standard of success really means because it seems as if she claimed success as soon as someone says this color helps me read better than that color. I am not really interested if this color is better than tact color. I am more interested in " Do these glasses remove the visual problems that were making reading difficult or painful.". That seems like a more reasonable goal. To get back to my return rate. I have no problem with people buying my glasses to see if they will help whether or not they have visual problems. I try to make my website clear that those without visual problems will receive no benefit. I also guarantee my prescription lenses. My return rate on prescription glasses has been 0%. I attribute this to the fact that before I will fill a prescription glasses order I require the customer to describe the visual problems that they hope the glasses will remove. The reason I don't ask everybody to describe their visual problems before I sell them glasses is that I found in my research that many visual dyslexics assumed their vision was normal until after they had tried my glasses. It was only at that point they realized they had visual problems. While some can argue that some of my statements about Irlen are misleading, I suggest that an objective look at what Irlen says about Irlen lenses is even more misleading than my statements. I truly believe that Irlen could set better standards to identify your target audience and increase your success rate to where she could offer a moneyback guarantee. I also believe that she should stop trying to promote her product as being research-based unless she actually gets someone who understands how to do a proper scientific study to undertake such a study. Overall, I feel my product has been tainted by association due to her overselling, lack of a guarantee, and claiming her lousy studies prove her method. Tinted lenses are not a general solution to autism ,ADHD or very helpful to already good readers as she says on her website. And while she claims her glasses are research-based I see no studies with her glasses for those with autism or ADHD. Last Edited on 9-Oct-2009 3:04 PM

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